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		<title>Calling BS on Wall Street&#8217;s YouTube Revenue Estimates</title>
		<link>http://sawickipedia.com/2008/07/09/calling-bs-on-wall-streets-youtube-revenue-estimates/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Sawicki</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[YouTube]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The recent WSJ article on Google&#8217;s difficulties monetizing YouTube has caught a lot of attention with the stat that Google can only sell ads around 4% of the videos on the site (due to copyright concerns).  With roughly a billion videos viewed a day that leaves a lot of unmonetized traffic.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121557163349038289.html">WSJ article</a> on Google&#8217;s difficulties monetizing YouTube has caught a lot of attention with the stat that Google can only sell ads around 4% of the videos on the site (due to copyright concerns).  With roughly a billion videos viewed a day that leaves a lot of unmonetized traffic.</p>
<p>At the same time as noted by <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/lehman_another_bullish_youtube_estimate">SAI</a> and <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/24/expectations-continue-to-grow-but-evidence-of-online-video-ad-revenue-in-short-supply/">Venturebeat</a>, a bunch of silly and seemingly crack-smoking inspired revenue estimates were published by Wall Street analysts estimating YouTube&#8217;s 2008 revenue at around $200 million for 2008 and $350 to $400 million for next year.</p>
<p>As I noted in a <a href="http://www.sawickipedia.com/blog/2008/05/12/online-video-not-here-yet-how-a-big-number-isnt-really-that-big/">recent post</a> &#8211; the video ad market has a long way to go to be anything of significance.  Given Wall Street&#8217;s ability to hype hallucinogenic estimates I am not surprised to see those crazy numbers thrown out there.  But someone has to take a closer look and expose the crack smoking for what it is.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a look &#8211; 4% of YouTube&#8217;s content is monetizable.  Let&#8217;s assume for a moment that 4% represents 10% of YouTube&#8217;s traffic &#8211; given the 1 billion videos viewed per day &#8211; that&#8217;s 100 million views.  YouTube is selling a new format &#8211; the video overlay with some estimates as high as a $20 cpm.  Now being in the ad business &#8211; I doubt very much that Google is actually getting anywhere close to $20 &#8211; real 30 second video ads are getting $20 CPM for essentially the equivalent of a 5-10 second banner-sized pop-up ad.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say Google sales force is good and they are getting a $10 cpm on what they can sell and let&#8217;s assume they are achieving a typical premium sell through of 30% of their inventory.  That means that they aren&#8217;t selling 100 million overlay ads per day that means they are selling 30 million.  At a $10 CPM that&#8217;s $300k per day, $9 million a month and just under a $100 million per year.  And given the amount of inventory &#8211; I highly doubt YouTube is seeing a 30% fill rate and a $10 eCPM a much more likely scenario is half that fill rate at half that CPM or $25 million a year.  Also as more inventory opens up to Google, the eCPM&#8217;s are likely to fall as the social networks have shown having a ton of inventory puts a lot of downward pressure on CPM&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Now a $25 to $100 million dollar a year business is nice especially for a business that&#8217;s not even 4 years old but I doubt that even covers YouTube&#8217;s bandwidth costs even at the high end of the estimate.</p>
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		<title>Online Video &#8211; Not Here Yet &#8211; How a Big Number isn&#8217;t really That Big</title>
		<link>http://sawickipedia.com/2008/05/12/online-video-not-here-yet-how-a-big-number-isnt-really-that-big/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Sawicki</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[advertising]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[online video]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comscore (via Allen Stern at CenterNetwork) reports that 11.5 billion videos were watched online in March in the U.S.  11.5 billion sounds like an awfully big number.  But it&#8217;s not.  At least not in terms of web scale.  Comscore itself estimates that total page views online are estimated in the trillions per month.  Heck even [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comscore (via <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/comscore-online-video-march">Allen Stern at CenterNetwork</a>) reports that 11.5 billion videos were watched online in March in the U.S.  11.5 billion sounds like an awfully big number.  But it&#8217;s not.  At least not in terms of web scale.  Comscore itself estimates that total page views online are estimated in the trillions per month.  Heck even my company, <a href="http://lookery.com">Lookery</a>, a demographic-based ad network that&#8217;s less then a year old delivered almost 3 billion ads in April. It&#8217;s estimated that MySpace and Facebook combined do more then 100 billion page views a month.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2247/2488295607_37a063628c.jpg?v=0" height="275" width="500" /></p>
<p>And Comscore which likely undercounts pages views by a factor of 2 to 3x is OVERstating videos.  In their stats, they estimate the AVERAGE online user watches 83 videos a month!  Seriously.  Personally I can&#8217;t believe that stat.  I&#8217;m as addicted to the Internet as the next guy and I watch maybe 30 videos a month.  Maybe.</p>
<p>So even if you take Comscore&#8217;s numbers at face value, 11.5 billion isn&#8217;t that big of a number when you look at the economic size of the video market.  Assuming a range of $1 to $5 cpm and 1 ad per video (any format, method, size, style doesn&#8217;t really matter), you&#8217;re looking at a TOTAL market size of just $11.5 million to $57.5 million for all online video.  That&#8217;s out of a total online ad market of about $2 billion a month.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2488311885_f2230ac90c.jpg?v=0" height="358" width="338" /></p>
<p>My point isn&#8217;t to say online video won&#8217;t be or isn&#8217;t important.  It&#8217;s more a comment about the incredibly large scale required to build a large media business or market.  The media business is about a little off a whole heck of a lot.  That&#8217;s why ads are priced in cost per thousands.  And the need to have immense scale also explains why the media business gravitates towards consolidation but that&#8217;s a post for another day.  When videos viewed starts approaching trillions then we&#8217;ll be somewhere.</p>
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		<title>joost &#8211; is it just me or am I the only one?</title>
		<link>http://sawickipedia.com/2007/05/11/joost-is-it-just-me-or-am-i-the-only-one/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Sawicki</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[kazaa]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is perhaps the best followon to my post about Renee&#8217;s observation about living in an echo-chamber &#8211; what is all the excitement about joost for?  Let&#8217;s see p2p streaming techonology &#8211; that&#8217;s been around for years from folks like kontera and even in video form for the last year from AOL with their very [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is perhaps the best followon to my <a href="http://www.sawickipedia.com/blog/2007/05/10/sometimes-we-forget-where-we-are-on-the-curve/">post</a> about <a href="http://www.downtheavenue.com/2007/05/web_20_echocham.html">Renee&#8217;s observation </a>about living in an echo-chamber &#8211; what is all the excitement about joost for?  Let&#8217;s see p2p streaming techonology &#8211; that&#8217;s been around for years from folks like kontera and even in video form for the last year from AOL with their very cool in2tv application.  So nothing new there.  Let&#8217;s see high quality video content &#8211; been able to get for years direct from sources like abc.com, indirect like youtube or even torrents.  So basically there&#8217;s no killer new technology and we&#8217;ve seen online video before.  Maybe the content is hugely unique and compelling &#8211; not yet &#8211; sure they&#8217;ve signed a deal with viacom and cbs &#8211; but all of that content is already available online.  So again why all the hype for joost? </p>
<p>Oh wait &#8211; that&#8217;s right it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the kazaa and skype guys who made a bundle on both.  Maybe someday the hype will be justified &#8211; I&#8217;m just not there yet.  And this coming from a guy who is a total sucker for shiny, new balls evidenced by the fact I bought an apple newton (pda) and pj jukebox (first HD based mp3 player) back in the day.</p>
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