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		<title>valuations are for egos</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy Liew started quite a discussion in the tech vc blogosphere with his post Asymetric risk and the danger of too high a valuation which was endorsed by Josh Koppelman and bashed by my fellow silicon alley alum Jason Calacanis and indirectly criticized by (and what might have influenced Jeremy&#8217;s post) Marc Andreesen.
As someone who works in startups &#8211; I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Liew started quite a discussion in the tech vc blogosphere with his post <a href="http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/asymmetric-risk-and-the-dangers-of-too-high-a-valuation/">Asymetric risk and the danger of too high a valuation</a> which was endorsed by <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/redeyevc/~3/132209249/the-unintention.html">Josh Koppelman</a> and bashed by my fellow silicon alley alum <a href="http://http://www.calacanis.com/2007/07/09/should-you-raise-a-lot-of-money-or-not-hint-listen-to-success/">Jason Calacanis</a> and indirectly criticized by (and what might have influenced Jeremy&#8217;s post) <a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/07/the-pmarca-guid.html">Marc Andreesen</a>.</p>
<p>As someone who works in startups &#8211; I&#8217;m on the side of the entrepreneur.  I&#8217;ve also worked with vc&#8217;s and pe investors as well and know with the best of them that they are not always in it for the entrepreneur so I am sympathetic to Jason&#8217;s and Marc&#8217;s point of view that entrepreneurs need to look out for ol&#8217; #1.  That being said &#8211; Jeremy and Josh are right &#8211; there is risk in taking too high a valuation just like there is risk in taking too much money.  And the risk as Josh rightly points out is if you take too high a valuation you do limit your exits?  Josh does a great job breaking down typcial exits and from my own experience I can anecdotally concur.  I&#8217;ve been involved in lots of buy-side m&amp;a deals buying startups and valuations at that point matter and generally must be justified with semblance of financial reality.  Unrealistic, inflated valuation and no deal, no deal then no exit.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s important because as an entrepreneur you don&#8217;t get paid until there is an exit (or perhaps a partial exit in the case of a PE late stage deal when founders are often bought out or partially bought out to help limit dilution).  So why limit your exit options with a high valuation unless it&#8217;s too boost your ego by being able to tell all your entrepreneurial friends you&#8217;re company is worth X dollars?  Wayyyyy more startups never see an exit then see one so its important to keep your options open.  If you your at a $12 mil post series A valuation then you can sell at $25 to 50mil to a lot of companies and everyone &#8211; the vc&#8217;s, founders, and employees &#8211; walk away with cash.  And lots of private and public companies can afford a deal of that size.  The problem with a $50 mil, $100 mil or apparently $200+ mil in the case of Ning is that the companies who can afford a deal all have to worth a lot themselves &#8211; $500 mil or more.  There aren&#8217;t a lot of companies in that space.  Then you&#8217;re stuck hoping someone huge like Google, Yahoo or FIM buys you in case you&#8217;re an Internet media company.</p>
<p>I am currently working with Loomia, a startup in the personalization and recommendation space, and we compete with one of those companies that has what I would argue a silly valuation &#8211; aggregate knowledge (&#8220;ak&#8221;).  In a twist of past lives I know the founders &#8211; paul and chris &#8211; and a member of their sr. management team &#8211; kurt &#8211; so I am happy to engage in some good natured ribbing here.  AK raised a $20 million b round with a pre of $60 mil supposedly and a post $80 mil valuation!  Ay Carumba!  AK is now in the position where they have to hit a homerun to get an exit &#8211; not saying they won&#8217;t do it &#8211; just that their margin for error is tiny.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s even more interesting is that Josh Koppelman was a seed investor in ak!  So it&#8217;s a good question &#8211; Josh what happened?  Did Paul, Chris and Kleiner Perkins ignore you&#8217;re advice which I am sure was the same as your blog post?  Inquiring minds want to know.</p>
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